The footage is good, but the music is way too loud for the rest of the soundtrack. It makes it harder to concentrate on the action. Watch some Hollywood flicks, and pay close attention to the volume and timing of soundtracks.
Hi Phillip - thanks for the comment. Are you saying the music is too loud in comparison to the background noise (people talking, etc)? If that’s the case, this was by design. If you actually see the audio tracks, you’ll see that most of the original audio was scrapped and only brought in at certain points. I did a lot of ducking also — this is evident in the last section for “Flight of the Bumblebee” when Ethan tops out.
@sheesh - yeah, i considered trying to block the guy out, but there were a lot of things with the shot that would have made it very difficult to do. G only took two tries to send, so I didn’t have a whole lot of time to setup another shot. given those circumstances, i’m pretty happy with how it came out.
“same ol thing”? I’m all for constructive criticism, but i gather you’re just trying to be a jerk. take it somewhere else, man.
loved it until that horrible nu-metal kicked in at the end, but there’s no accounting for taste. Couldn’t care less about the guy with a camera in the shot, looking forward to seeing more.
This got me psyched. That’s why I watch climbing videos. This got me psyched to go to Bishop, hopefully this weekend - that’s how psyched it got me. Phillip is a tool - “Watch some Hollywood flicks, and pay close attention…” Don’t watch Hollywood flicks, please. They do not get me psyched to do anything except punch the director in the face. I’ll continue to be psyched if you continue to get out there, put rad climbers on disk, put it to rad music, and grow your art. Believe me, it’s already rad. Well Ok, not all the music was rad, but generally the editing and climbing was way rad. Keep it up.
Wow, quite a few comments about the music. What kind of music do people generally like to see in climbing films? I’m wondering if it’s possible to please everyone on that …
Jon, First off, great work. Best one so far. since it seems like you are loving the feedback, I figured I would throw in my own 2 cents (assuming that the V0 huckster is still worthy!)
Camera: this video is taking full advantage of the experience you have been gaining over the past year or so. It is cleaner, takes advantage of the climbing angles and includes a larger variety of angles then the past. A top-notch amateur video, one of the best I have seen. Sure, I wanted to kick mr. jean-shorts arse, but what you going to do. Next time you need to bring your posse of enforcers to get him out of the way
Music: there were a lot of comments about the music, and understandably (the film is three things, rock, climbers and music, the rock is awesome, the climbers are all hardmen so what else is left . 90% of movies out there (climbing or otherwise) have average music….really tough to nail it all the time. I thought that the music was fine. Most of it I really liked, especially the last track, some I could do without, but they all did a great job of setting the mood for each climb. Since music ALWAYS accounts for taste, not everyone if going to love all the tracks, but again, what are you going to do. If you are that concerned, hire John Williams to help you out and all will be right with the world
awesome work on the video! It is really top top notch amateur quality. Where do you go from here to break through this level? I would work on your floating camera, and this will come in time. In Mirando, you have a habit of waiting till the last second to either pan out, or move the camera upwards in order to catch the climbers vertical progression. you often either go a little to high and have to settle the camera a little lower or you under estimate and the climbers hands leave the viewing frame. Again, this is not a serious issue, but it is something that you are going to have to learn to estimate over time to make some real progress. The video quality is awesome, and the first and last songs really set the mood well
thanks!
Hi Mike — thanks for the comment and for the tips. I agree — trying to anticipate the climbers hands is probably the hardest thing for me. Most of these climbs I’d never seen before so I could never tell how far they’d go on their next move. I think what will also help will be me being ok with some wider shots. I missed a few great opportunities to go wide and that would definitely help with the previous issue as well since I won’t have to pan much to keep the climber in frame.
[...] second video comes to us from Fraction Film. Dubbed “Mirando”, the 12 minute video features several noteworthy problems in Bishop, CA like Haroun And The Sea Of [...]
I make climbing films — not really my main gig, more like a hobby. But a hobby I really enjoy. I take pride in my work and seek to make films that are enjoyable, heart-pounding, and put you in the middle of the action. I hope you like what you see.
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The footage is good, but the music is way too loud for the rest of the soundtrack. It makes it harder to concentrate on the action. Watch some Hollywood flicks, and pay close attention to the volume and timing of soundtracks.
Hi Phillip - thanks for the comment. Are you saying the music is too loud in comparison to the background noise (people talking, etc)? If that’s the case, this was by design. If you actually see the audio tracks, you’ll see that most of the original audio was scrapped and only brought in at certain points. I did a lot of ducking also — this is evident in the last section for “Flight of the Bumblebee” when Ethan tops out.
i think the volume is good and the tracks that you chose are rad. this is one of the best bishop videos out right now.
Loved the video man. Nice work.
@joel, @narc — thanks for the comments, guys! Glad you enjoyed it
It blows. Pretty ordinary. Same ol thing. Nice that there is full view of a person and his video camera, GOOB.
@sheesh - yeah, i considered trying to block the guy out, but there were a lot of things with the shot that would have made it very difficult to do. G only took two tries to send, so I didn’t have a whole lot of time to setup another shot. given those circumstances, i’m pretty happy with how it came out.
“same ol thing”? I’m all for constructive criticism, but i gather you’re just trying to be a jerk. take it somewhere else, man.
Your comments aren’t constructive Sheesh.
I thought the video was sweet.
loved it until that horrible nu-metal kicked in at the end, but there’s no accounting for taste. Couldn’t care less about the guy with a camera in the shot, looking forward to seeing more.
@miso - thanks. Yeah, it’s hard to please everyone with the music.
Glad you liked the other tunes… thanks for the comment!
This got me psyched. That’s why I watch climbing videos. This got me psyched to go to Bishop, hopefully this weekend - that’s how psyched it got me. Phillip is a tool - “Watch some Hollywood flicks, and pay close attention…” Don’t watch Hollywood flicks, please. They do not get me psyched to do anything except punch the director in the face. I’ll continue to be psyched if you continue to get out there, put rad climbers on disk, put it to rad music, and grow your art. Believe me, it’s already rad. Well Ok, not all the music was rad, but generally the editing and climbing was way rad. Keep it up.
Thanks Elijah!
Wow, quite a few comments about the music. What kind of music do people generally like to see in climbing films? I’m wondering if it’s possible to please everyone on that …
Jon, First off, great work. Best one so far. since it seems like you are loving the feedback, I figured I would throw in my own 2 cents (assuming that the V0 huckster is still worthy!)
Camera: this video is taking full advantage of the experience you have been gaining over the past year or so. It is cleaner, takes advantage of the climbing angles and includes a larger variety of angles then the past. A top-notch amateur video, one of the best I have seen. Sure, I wanted to kick mr. jean-shorts arse, but what you going to do. Next time you need to bring your posse of enforcers to get him out of the way
Music: there were a lot of comments about the music, and understandably (the film is three things, rock, climbers and music, the rock is awesome, the climbers are all hardmen so what else is left
. 90% of movies out there (climbing or otherwise) have average music….really tough to nail it all the time. I thought that the music was fine. Most of it I really liked, especially the last track, some I could do without, but they all did a great job of setting the mood for each climb. Since music ALWAYS accounts for taste, not everyone if going to love all the tracks, but again, what are you going to do. If you are that concerned, hire John Williams to help you out and all will be right with the world
this video is sick. great angles and some amazing climbs and not to mention the music is sweet.
nice job.
Thanks, Dylin! Glad you liked it!
I thought the video was great man. Keep it up!!
awesome work on the video! It is really top top notch amateur quality. Where do you go from here to break through this level? I would work on your floating camera, and this will come in time. In Mirando, you have a habit of waiting till the last second to either pan out, or move the camera upwards in order to catch the climbers vertical progression. you often either go a little to high and have to settle the camera a little lower or you under estimate and the climbers hands leave the viewing frame. Again, this is not a serious issue, but it is something that you are going to have to learn to estimate over time to make some real progress. The video quality is awesome, and the first and last songs really set the mood well
thanks!
Hi Mike — thanks for the comment and for the tips. I agree — trying to anticipate the climbers hands is probably the hardest thing for me. Most of these climbs I’d never seen before so I could never tell how far they’d go on their next move. I think what will also help will be me being ok with some wider shots. I missed a few great opportunities to go wide and that would definitely help with the previous issue as well since I won’t have to pan much to keep the climber in frame.
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